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Monday, 11 September 2006

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matt walles
Harvard’s intellectual climate = Evil Sworn to the Destruction of the Free World. How could any self-respecting parent encourage their child to attend this sewer pretending to be a place where people learn?
Toby
America doesn't get it. But that's only the first part of the problem. The second part of the problem is that we--those of us who get it--have to help them get it. Don't ask me how. I'm still working on that one. I can say that--while I agree with Matt that I'd never send my children there--I certainly don't think that attacks will get us the response we need. I don't know. I'm just saying we need to help them get it. It's the burden of being right.
Yael
It's not all that long ago that I would've been very pleased if one of my kids went to Harvard. And now, I wouldn't let them go if they wanted to. How could that have changed so drastically so quickly? It feels as if the world just suddenly went upside down. Plus, Toby, I understand your sentiment and I've tried for these last few years, but for the most part the response has been hostile. I wouldn't keep doing this if I didn't have any hope at all, but every day it diminishes.
jy99
Everyone is invited to view photographs I made of the protest outside the Harvard JFK School here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jy99/sets/72157594279739589/
Toby
It's me, again. And I'm not pretending to have the answers. It's just that, having held minority opinions my entire life (though I'm certain the majority of my minority opinions will be vindicated in the long run) I've learned that the 'frontal attack' method of communicating them: "Unions are the worst thing for America since Democratic party!" incites an instinctive counter-attack. Whether it's human nature, or American nature (not to distinguise Americans as being distinct from humans, but as a subset) to respond to an attack by attacking back, I don't know, but it's verifyable. The trick is to find a way to talk to people that encourages them to weigh and evaluate your arguments not as an attack, but as 'new evidence' or 'another way of seeing things.' The problem with this approach, is that it has to be individual. As a conservative, I don't go looking for evidence that necessarily debunks my beliefs, I don't look for 'new ways of viewing things,' as I'm pretty confident in my method of viewing the world. Instead, someone has to engage me in a conversation and say "You know, I'm for free markets, too, but I worry that, left to themselves, they'll reward selfisness and leave people behind." And then point the conversation in the direction of what they want to discuss. As equals. How to do that? I don't know. I mean, I move in conservative circles, my 'knucklehead liberal' counterparts move in 'knucklehead liberal' circles. We don't talk much. Instead, we talk to our compatriots and get ourselves so fired up that, when we actually meet someone we could persuade, we attack instead. And that's not healthy. They do the same thing, don't get me wrong, I'm just saying that we're right. We have an obligation to persuade the rest of the (thinking) world, not to beat them into submission.
Toby
Just for the record, I really did put paragraphs into that last comment, with the return key. Should I use the HTML tag, instead? That's a pretty intimidating block of text by itself.

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