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Wednesday, 18 November 2009

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JCF
"...I absolutely dread what my fellow patriots might think of the Jews now! It was bad enough that nearly 80% of Jews voted for Obama in the first place, like the little liberal lemmings that they are, but now...." . First, as fellow Jew, I found most of your article accurate and interesting. The part I quote though, I want to take exception to. That 70+% of Jewish voters voted for Obama should explain how and why the ADL falls where it does. But that 70% is dwindling, from the bottom up. Eventually, maybe, the 'leadership' will catch on, and catch up. As for what your fellow patriots will think of Jews now, regretably, some of them are already anti-semites, and will think anti-semitic thoughts. No surprise there. The rest, which I personally believe to be the vast majority, will regard the ADL much as they regard MSNBC, or CNN, or any other "mainstream, in the tank for Obama" propaganda arm. Shondah fhar dah Goyim shouldn't apply here....
Yael
JCF wrote: "As for what your fellow patriots will think of Jews now, regretably, some of them are already anti-semites, and will think anti-semitic thoughts. No surprise there." Wow. I am very distressed by your comments. It blows my mind that you would assume that my fellow patriots, friends and colleagues, "are already antisemites" for no reason in the world other than their not being Jews. If that isn't a blatant bias, I don't know what is. It is an insult to me and to them. Such an arrogant assumption is way off base and shows clearly that you know nothing about those of whom you so casually speak. I do know these people, so let me tell you something. The individuals I'm talking about are very strongly pro-America and extremely pro-Israel. They have witnessed interminable Israeli concessions to stateless Arabs, they have seen the American Jews' lack of interest in and support for Israel, they have seen us vote overwhelmingly for Obama and they have wondered, as anyone in their right mind would, WTF is that all about? I can't tell you how many times I have been asked to explain these things; I can only shrug and feel badly that there is no obvious defense. Secondly, since the people we're talking about are not on the "inside track" of the Jewish world, they are not likely to know offhand that the ADL is nothing but a leftist propaganda machine, and probably believe the ADL is representative. And in fact, when you think about it, it is! And then you yourself go and illustrate Jewish bigotry by so arrogantly dismissing them as probably being antisemites anyway... when they're not! As far as I can see, the patriotic, fundamentally religious American Christians are the only friends the Jewish people have in the world. At least they're the only people that I've seen bravely standing up for Israel when no one else does. It's because they actually believe in the words of Torah, that those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed. While I understand that we Jews have often cared too much what non-Jews think and in accordance have acted to our own detriment, there has to be a balance. It's no good, and certainly no better, if we unthinkingly veer into the bigotry of disregarding and disrespecting good people we don't even know -- as you have done here. And believe me, you won't have a leg to stand on if their reaction to your comment is just as closed-minded as your own: "regretably, some of [the Jews] are already anti-goyim, and will think [these] anti-goyim thoughts. No surprise there." Better we should all be surprised.
JCF
"JCF wrote: "As for what your fellow patriots will think of Jews now, regretably, some of them are already anti-semites, and will think anti-semitic thoughts. No surprise there." Wow....." .......................................... Wow, indeed, if you stopped reading where you stopped your quotation of my reply! What I actually said was"...regretably, some of them are already anti-semites, and will think anti-semitic thoughts. No surprise there. The rest, which I personally believe to be the vast majority, will regard the ADL much as they regard MSNBC, or CNN..." Note the "some of them are", and that is followed in short order by "...The rest, which I personally believe to be the vast majority...." But carry on, I enjoy being castigated for my 'arrogant assumption', mea culpa, mea maxim culpa, LOL!
RR
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/adl-crosses-the-line-with-report-bashing-obama-critics-15290

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